Tuesday, September 12, 2006

Teacher Licensing Issues - Still

They are driving me mad. Beating me down to the ground. Not the autistic preschoolers. The adults who run the New York City Department of Education and the New York State Education Department. Two completely out of control bureaucracies with employees who only give cookie cutter responses - if they give responses at all. It's dehumanizing. So dehumanizing I can't even muster up the energy to write complete sentences. I want out. Of this state. Of this city. Of this system.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t give up, kiddo. There are a lot of people around the world who read your blog and are on your side.

4:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm in the same boat. NYSED employees tell you straight out that they are backed up for 4 months minimum. My district is not happy that I have not gotten my paperwork from the state but neither actually communicates with the other. So it's me and you and hundreds of others stuck in the middle!! Thank God for the kids.

6:05 PM  
Blogger Miss Dennis said...

It's not just the time issue that I'm dealing with (I'll explain more later), but NYSED did in fact send me a letter stating that the process would take 4-6 weeks. Why are they sending out this letter when they know it actually takes more like 6 months to a year? More importantly, why, when New York is in such desperate need of teachers, does the state have such an incredibly inefficient and understaffed licensing system for fully qualified teachers??? If the state can't figure out how to run a licensing system for its teachers, then they need to hire a company that can.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous NYC Educator said...

I know this is no consolation whatsoever, but it's a longstanding tradition to treat teachers like that. I remember having to re-submit a transcript I'd given them twice, and a woman telling me, "They're on the third floor. We don't have it here on the seventh floor."

7:13 AM  
Anonymous Jonathan said...

The backlog has probably never been this bad. Many teachers have been left hanging.

Marginally helpful advice: this is deep breath territory. It will get done. They are not very good at processing the applications. They are slow and make mistakes. You'll have to keep after them. But it will get done.

Teachers, especially newer teachers, need to be treated decently. Treated well. This system abuses us in a host of ways. Why should licensure be one of them?

How can we keep teachers, new teachers, in the system if we let them face this sort of nonsense at the beginning of their careers? I hope that you are not really considering leaving. But there is none among us who would not understand.

This should be fixed. At least improved. I think the numbers are small - two more people in the office might reduce the lag - anyone know the numbers? Hiring a few people is easy. There is no excuse.

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey it is not personal we are all treated like warmed over sh*t. Now with "Bozo the Klown" in charge they have declared against scholarship and tenure. Remember we are the green berets of teaching!!!!

6:10 AM  
Anonymous Schoolgal said...

Hang in there. Once you get it, other states still might accept it through its reciprocal progams.

Our students took the ELA in January and the Math test in March.
Those scores are still in nowhere to be found.

So, you see, they have no regard for students either. So now teachers are forced to give assessments rather than teach. Of course, we give assessments anyway, but the pressure is worse without last year's scores because so many other areas are affected--such as placement in the AIS programs.

10:40 AM  
Blogger liquidwafflegirl said...

Wow... somehow I imagined that NYC had it more together than Newark, NJ, but it sounds like all this certification and paper pushing is the same no matter where you teach. I found out recently that I'm not certified to be in my position, and I feel the same way you do... so frustrated that I can't even form complete thoughts! Hang in there-- they're bound to get it right... right?

8:32 PM  

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